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It seems the norm for social forums to eventually adopt a kinder, gentler approach to outsiders (or easily-offended insiders) and with it goes the creativity and freedoms associated with it.

The days of #perl being a social channel are long gone. It is no longer a neighborhood pub (or even gym locker room) where informality and openness are welcome. Asking advice while sharing a beer and a ribald joke are right out. Yes, outsiders felt a little "left out" of the culture, but eventually they adapted (or left). Instead it's now a welcoming melting pot where the lowest-common-denominator determines what is acceptable behavior and what is not.

Pissy, narrow-minded enforcement is now the order of the day, and the deafening silence in there for hours at a stretch is the result.

I think you're addressing the more practical nature of Perl 6 which still seems premature, as I read this thread. There are applications to be written, libraries to be ported, packages to be bundled, books to be written, training classes to be prepared. Until it syntax/semantics are stable (not necessarily code stable) then it's pretty much impractical to do most of these things. And some have *long* lead-times (books, porting projects). Some can't be undone (releasing an app into the wild). Software has stages: Dev, Alpha, Beta, RC, RTM and Release. We're all adults here, call it what it is. It's still very much a development product.

clintp writes "Just passing this along... as announced here, the PerlMonks site has been hacked and the passwords used there are vulnerable. What details have been made available are at the link.

It's still not fixed yet, and there's no estimate of when it will be. The system remains vulnerable until then. Enjoy!"
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