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Wednesday December 10, 2008
10:14 PM

This is Why We Can't Have Anything Nice!

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I'd say I love the responses to Five Features Perl 5 Needs Now, but only Schwern seems to understand that my one sentence quips rank 11 out of 10 on the 0 to 10 sarcasm scale.

The idea that Class::Accessor is a substitute for a full and complete object system should debunk itself. The notion that modules in the core can't evolve is silly.

"Oh, that will never work!" is exactly why these things never work.

Thanks for the stop energy. Let's have this discussion again next year. Someone else can start it.

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  • I totally understand that you're an 11/10 on the sarcastic quipometer. That's what makes you so {help,use}{ful,less}. Well, some of those things.

  • that you would see the sarcasm in my reply. Sorry.

    The Enlightned Perl Organisation [perl.org] is trying to do exactly what I described. Take on the burden of an extended core of modules and put it onto someone other than p5p. They're taking an initial list [cpan.org], forming a group to vet that list, and going to build a dist around it.

    This seems like a better solution than putting the burden of chasing down more modules and their changes onto p5p. Especially since they aren't getting the all of help they need now [perl.org]

    • I don't believe the solution is stuffing more modules in the core. That hasn't worked, and it's not going to work. The solution is fixing the core. (I suppose one solution is removing modules from the core, but good luck with that.)

      • Um, exactly. I think we're in violent agreement. I'll shut up and go back to working on the EPO stuff then.

  • Maybe I am mentally impaired but I am confused. Does this mean they were silly ideas and you are sick of hearing about them or they are good ideas and you are sick of the stop energy?