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• And? (Score:1)

  by sigzero (5768)

  Are you for or against it? I don't care really. I would do it just to have a nice piece of paper to hang in my dreary cube.
• The links to the last flamefest we had on this :) (Score:3, Insightful)

  by brian_d_foy (44) <brian.d.foy@gmail.com> on 2008.01.03 21:59 (#59939) Homepage Journal

  
  Some links to head off the rest of the discussion:
  

  
  
  

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    My 2004 OnLAMP post about Perl certifications [oreillynet.com]
    
  • The Tim Maher FlameFest of 2004 [perl.org]
    
  • Tim Maher's post announcing his TPJ article on certification [perl.org]
    
  • My "Perl is not a toll road" [perl.org] post.
    

  
  
  

  
  I've softened in my old age on this. I don't need to worry about it because I know people are all talk and no action. Four years later we see that nobody did anything but talk. It's my favorite life rule for the last couple of years: ignore things you don't like and they mostly go away on their own. :)
  

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  • Re:The links to the last flamefest we had on this (Score:1)

    by stephenca (4269)

    As usual, Reg Braithwaite has something pithy to say on this subject [raganwald.com].
  • Re:The links to the last flamefest we had on this (Score:2)

    by vek (2312)

    Could you fix the Tim Maher link, it currently points to the "Perl is not a toll road" post.
    
    Honestly Brian, how hard is it to do a bit of link checking? You had no way of verifying it?
    
    Ahem. I'm totally kidding ;-)
    • Re: (Score:2)

      by brian_d_foy (44)

      Getting the right links seems to be one of my biggest problems in posts. Since it's a comment I can't fix it (at least not myself), but the link I meant was TPJ Article on Perl Certification Available for Download [perl.org] by Tim Maher.
      
      Thanks for the correction. :)
• Old, but good (Score:1)

  by btilly (5037)

  Look at the date. It was written a decade ago. (Hence the Y2K reference in the letter.)
• Gosh! I agree with chromatic :-) (Score:1)

  by Adrian (66)

  Certification - waste of space. See my delicious links on certification [del.icio.us] for a collection of similar views.

  I especially enjoy the Agile Allience position on certification [agilealliance.org].

  Certifications such as Certified Scrum Master and DSDM Foundation are knowledge-based and easy to achieve. We believe the courses that lead to them are good ones. We believe people who attend them get their money’s worth. But while the certifications may be evidence of good faith, useful knowledge, and a desire to learn, they are
  • Re: (Score:1)

    by chromatic (983)

    I didn't express any opinion in the original post, except that I think that Tom DeMarco wrote that letter.

    For what it's worth, I could support a certification that identified actual skill, limited its promises to what it could reasonably support, and did not exclude people of the appropriate and corresponding skills.