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JAPH. (That's right -- I'm not Really Inexperienced any more.)

I'm not just here, I'm here [perlmonks.org], and here [javajunkies.org] too, I ramble randomly in my philosophical blog [blogspot.com] and my other blog [blogspot.com]. Soon I'll come in a convenient six-pack.

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Wednesday May 25, 2005
12:23 AM

Text Editor Poll Redux: The Revenge

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Based on the comments, and the fact that none of the differentiating factors are ones that are truly significant to me, it looks like I just need to spend more time with vim. I'm aware of basic features; I just have to find the tutorials I tried to go through a while back, and (of course) put my own installation of it on my thumbdrive.

And, as a backup, learn some basic emacs, or possibly try pico out. I already know PFE pretty well, but there's no upgrade path with it (which is a liability on the ever-shiftin' Windows platform) and there's no source access, so I can't modify it should I feel the need. I need a backup that's open and findable for whatever OS I'm using next week, or year, or decade...looks like vim is it, and then a little bit of some second editor.

Jeez, this is like choosing a major. :\

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  • There is a Windows [vim.org] version of Vim ;)
    • I forgot to mention I was looking for something I could use on any system, and that I knew there was a vim for Windows of some form, but that I'd never investigated them. (But I meant to. :) )

      My disgust over the standstill of PFE and my need to get back to text modes in general use (because while GUIs are excellent ways for me to organize certain things (say, LiveJournal), it's a really crappy way for me to get things done) makes me think it's time to investigate them properly.

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  • this is like choosing a major

    Actually, it's worse. This is a decision that will affect your life permanently! :-)

    Anyway, if you're going with Vim, subscribe the vim@vim.org mailing list [vim.org] (Help on vim and vim usage).

    Check it out for some time. It's one of the greatest advantages of Vim: the support!

    That one is one of the best mailing lists out there :-) (in terms of people helping out, that is; and yes, I am aware that there are more like it)

  • Might as well be using Notepad on Win32. :) Give vim some time and you will learn it. It takes a little while.
    • Give vim some time and you will learn it. It takes a little while.

      I found vi to be like perl in one important way. I could use it effectively after learning a small subset of its capabilities. Then, every 6 months or so, I'd read through the manual again and add 4 or 5 more idioms to my repetoire. When the subsequent 6 month iteration came along, 2 or 3 of those idioms would have stuck and become part of my regular working set. Then, I'd be ready to try adding some more (possibly retrying ones that ha

      • I'm not so good with getting myself to function in iterative integration, but I'm trying to change that. I really need to. :) Your description of how to learn vim makes me think that this is a good chance to try.

        I have a tendency to try to learn everything at once, and it never really works. The only things where I consistently learn are the things that don't really have much by way of manuals or have tutorials that make you follow step by step. (Speaking of which, it occurs to me now that vim has a t

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  • I'm not a Vi user, but I recall that the user TVSET [perlmonks.org] on Perlmonks has written a tutorial for "Vi for Perl programmers". It's on his own website, link on his home node on Perlmonks.