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Wednesday July 03, 2002
01:21 PM

Thoughts on YAPC

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This was my first YAPC. Quite an interesting time. What I enjoyed most was putting faces / personalities to names. Larry, Damian, Mark Jason Dominus, Simon, Nat, Schwern, Abigail. The whole bunch.

What I don't quite understand, though, is how these people make a living. Or, more to the point, what kind of living can you make it if you get into the high Perl Priesthood?

Here's my best guess as to where their income comes from: (And hey, no offense to these folks -- maybe they don't want their incomes discussed. I don't mean it personally, I'm just curious about what the income possibilities are for our most lauded wizards.)

Perl Foundation Grants:
  • Larry, Damian and Dan Sugalski are all on 2002 Perl Foundation grants. Those pay a $60,000 stipend and a $20,000 travel allowance (but they are only 52% funded to date, and I believe Dan and Damian's expire at the end of July.)

Book Royalties:

  • Larry, Damian and Nat presumably have ongoing royalties from their books.
  • Simon has a book out next month (
  • Mark Jason Dominus seems to be perennially working on a book due out next year some time (

Day Jobs:

  • Schwern works as a contractor.
  • Nat and mjd work as trainers for the Tom Christianson Perl Consultancy.

Presentation Fees:

  • Let's see, YAPC-NA offered free conference attendance to presenters. There's a whopping $85 value.
  • mjd asks for $25 and a plane ticket to give a talk in any city.

And I can't seem to figure out what Abigail does.

So, is that it? Is that what getting to the top of your profession looks like? Book deals and Perl training? Do you get a 401k with that?

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  • Well, most of the Perl gurus around Europe make their money off full-time jobs. Training and consultancy got very tricky to pull off since the dot-crash. Perl is just something we do in our free time (or if we have kind employers, part of our work time too). Perl gods are people too, you know  ;-)