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Wednesday April 30, 2008
02:01 AM

A Perl blog about programming Perl

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If you're going to make a post to use.perl.org to game search engine optimization, you have to actually say something like "I like Perl programming", or "I enjoy programming in Perl". Or maybe, I don't know, have some real content about programming Perl, why you program Perl, why programming Perl makes your job easier, how programming Perl saved you a lot of money, or how programming Perl let you finish before the project deadline. Why waste time optimizing Google for a bunch of script kiddies reinventing stupid web applications who don't care what you think anyway?

Of course, the next trick is to get everyone to link to your Perl blog, so you need to set up new planets to constantly replicate every post multiple times. One Planet Perl aggregating Perl blog posts about Perl programming isn't enough. Set up several. Everyone can have their own. Get those links out there.

Now that you have that out of the way, you need to add your comment spam to every one of the top blogs in the search results so you get more links to your favored Perl blogs. I like Tim Bunce's Perl blog, even though it's mostly not about Perl and mostly about why advocating anything is fraught with peril and usually full of lies and personal agendas.

Of course, this is just as bad as what everyone else does and why search engines suck so hard now. With the flood of information whose only purpose is to affect search engines rankings, it's tougher to find any real information without some serious keyword kung fu. I guess it's fine when our group does it though, because we are us and they are them.

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  • Once upon a time [Nick Denton's] blogs merely pointed at things and made smart-arse comments about them. 'Now there's loads of that on the web,' he says, 'and what's missing is substance. Everybody is looking for something to link to.'

    People trying to manipulate search engines and blogs to make a couple of pennies in adsense revenue are starting to seriously interfere with people who are actually looking for, or trying to publish, meaningful content. I know what you are saying re: planets too. I am subscri

  • I was getting hit with so much blog spam that I ended up shutting off comments all together. I agree with you on the difficulty in finding anything on the web these days. I have been using delicious as a start of my search, but even that is susceptible to some form of link spam. Perhaps some form of Bayes classification algorithm or a neural net could help alleviate the search problem.
  • I do seem to have focussed on "why advocating anything is fraught with peril and usually full of lies and personal agendas" recently, but that's just the topic du jour. More Perl (and chocolate) is on the way!

    Returning to the topic at hand... I'm interested in the disconnect between the terms that people may use to search for something and the terms used on the site they presumably want to see.

    I think Schwern's point is valid. People may search for 'perl blog' but it seems few perl blogs contain actually th
    • Well, you have actual content. :)
    • Adding the term 'perl blog' to my perl blog, for example, and linking to other perl blogs I read, seems to me more like Search Engine Optimization than Search Engine Spamming to me.

      Maybe so, but I still won't do it. I've had several calls to put the word "blog" on useperl. I shouldn't have to dumb down my site for Google's sake.

      Of course, I can afford to be a bit bullheaded about it, because a. I don't care about hits, and b. useperl has a ton of googlejuice anyway.

      • The attention useperl attracts has always amazed and sometimes frightens me. I can remember a time when it seemed like every single site I mentioned here got hacked immediately. I decided never to mention any other sites I ran or participated in for fear the same would happen. :) [Wouldn't have been a good idea due to subject matter, anyway.] Then I became amazed at just how quickly Google indexed new useperl content, and this has only gotten faster.

        Search for a Perl subject (or indeed, just about any

        --
        J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
        • The top google hit for "perl blog" is Planet Perl, which is just as good as it being use.Perl since that is where most of Planet Perl's material starts. :)
  • If you're going to make a post to use.perl.org to game search engine optimization, you have to actually say something like "I like Perl programming", or "I enjoy programming in Perl"
    Nahh, I can just watch everybody else start talking about blogs on their own Perl journals. :)