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Tuesday January 01, 2008
07:26 PM

2007 jobs.perl.org report

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Ye ar | Total | Jan  Feb  Mar  Apr  May  Jun  Jul  Aug  Sep   Oct   Nov   Dec
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2001 |   280 |   0    2    8   21   40   34   33   29   34    30    35    14
2002 |   413 |  34   33   35   16   45   26   37   46   33    42    31    35
2003 |   560 |  43   36   56   56   21   39   44   64   53    52    52    44
2004 |   949 |  75   58   78   88   74   88   82   87   65    87    85    82
2005 |  1429 |  93  110  120  135  135  125  115  113  106   132   144   101
2006 |  1857 | 164  138  157  151  166  153  140  176  152   172   179   109
2007 |  1966 | 182  156  181  190  177  168  176  165  145   179   148    99
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I'm not affiliated with jobs.perl.org, and this is only the simplest of analyses. I didn't try to correct for duplicate posts where the same job was re-advertised. jobs.perl.org has their own stats, although Dave Rolsky seemed to think my numbers might be better. I don't know if I believe him. :)

I don't attempt to draw any conclusions about the popularity (up or down) of Perl from these numbers. In general, I think that the continual uptrend is more about people finding out about the free service than the same market having more jobs.

I made this same report in 2006 too, and there are some interesting links in the comments. Also interesting is renodino's graphs about jobs on Dice and the code he wrote to make them, along with the discussion about the usefulness of any conclusions.

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  • "In general, I think that the continual uptrend is more about people finding out about the free service than the same market having more jobs."

    It used to be that the vast majority of feedback to the site was "thanks, it helped us quickly find N qualified candidates and we hired one of them last week" - now most of the feedback is "we can't find anyone; do you have any suggestions for our posting?"

    I'm pretty sure the number of happily employed Perl programmers is up ...

      - ask
    --

    -- ask bjoern hansen [askbjoernhansen.com], !try; do();

    • I haven't done anything tricky to pull apart the actual jobs, but I expect the number of unique job sources is up too. :)
    • "I'm pretty sure the number of happily employed Perl programmers is up"

      I reckon so, my current client has grown from 1 perl developer to 4 man team, with 1 head of technology with strong Perl, myself as a contractor and 2 developers new full time perl developers.

      My last client grew from 1 php developer and 1 database/perl developer to 1 php/perl developer and 3 (4 before I left) perl developers - in fact while I was there, I was training a new graduate in Perl.

      Both clients are doing pretty interesting stuff
      --

      @JAPH = qw(Hacker Perl Another Just);
      print reverse @JAPH;
      • "perl Jobs market is growing and stifled only by the time it takes to train new blood"

        Yes, there has certainly been a lot of stability in Perl jobs recently. It's good to be busy, but the difficulty of finding qualified Perl programmers combined with the steep learning curve for the rest carries with it the temptation to develop new projects in other languages and keep the slim Perl staff busy with maintenance of existing code.
        That is a dangerous trend, which I observe in my company. I hope many of yo

        • Actually, I see the opposite trend. More and more new projects starting in Perl, thanks to new and better modules. Again, a tribute to CPAN.

          My fear is that the pool of well behaving Perl developers is drying out, and companies have to depend on people coming from the Java world with lower standards for code quality.
          • That's very encouraging to hear indeed.
            And an interesting point regarding the shrinking numbers of well behaved Perl developers. Why do you think that is?
            • From the rumors I hear, well-behaved Perl developers aren't willing to work in, for example, London for 30k quid.

            • Sorry, it should read "free well behaved Perl developers"

              Meaning that it's hard to find Perl people for jobs now; they (we) are all busy.

        • What steep learning curve?

          do you think the current crop of experienced perl developers battled a steep learning curve, or got hooked because the curve was so shallow and easy to climb?

          I haven't had any difficulty in training new perl programmers, the excellent Learning Perl and Perl Cookbook can get a complete newbie up to speed and productive quite quickly with only minimal review and supervision.
          --

          @JAPH = qw(Hacker Perl Another Just);
          print reverse @JAPH;
  • I researched these for my Keynote at the London Perl Workshop:

    http://use.perl.org/~Tim+Bunce/journal/35267 [perl.org]

  • Just an FYI RE: The Dynamic Languages Jobs Barometer [presicient.com]: The current numbers vs. baseline numbers have been way off the last week, presumably due to the holidaze. It'll be interesting to see how they rebound, tho.

    Also, here's someone [zedshaw.com]who's looking for a job. Perhaps someone can help this poor Rails refugee out ?