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barbie (2653)

barbie
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http://barbie.missbarbell.co.uk/

Leader of Birmingham.pm [pm.org] and a CPAN author [cpan.org]. Co-organised YAPC::Europe in 2006 and the 2009 QA Hackathon, responsible for the YAPC Conference Surveys [yapc-surveys.org] and the QA Hackathon [qa-hackathon.org] websites. Also the current caretaker for the CPAN Testers websites and data stores.

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Thursday April 14, 2005
09:05 AM

Meetup.com to start charging

[ #24186 ]
I look after the Birmingham Perl Meetup group, even though it's a thinly disguised reference to Birmingham Perl Mongers. Yesterday Meetup.com sent all the organisers an email directing them to their changes pages.

It essentially amounts to charging all the groups for existing. I'm a little unclear as to how they are going to enforce this, as what happens if everyone suddenly decides not to become an organiser? Aside from that am I now going to get a bill through the post? Mind that would be difficult as I haven't told them it :) In the FAQ, under "Aren't you worried that there will be fewer Meetups?", they accept that many groups will disappear, but I think they are fooling themselves if they think people are going to start new groups and fork out $19 per month. Then to recoup the money that organisers have been charged, members have to pay for attending a meeting!

They also state "If your group's very small, we know it might cost a little more per person while we help you grow.". There has been 1 member of the Birmingham Perl Meetup group since they revamped the setup last year, and they haven't exactly done anything to help me increase those numbers since then, so I'm curious as to how they think they're going to change that now. Are there going to arrange a flash crowd or flash mob to descend on groups? Certainly the lame business cards and flyers, both of which you print yourself, don't justify a $19/month charge. They can justify the web services used, but they can all be found elsewhere cheaper. Many organisers seem now to setting up Yahoo group accounts, which are free.

I guess we're lucky with Perl Mongers, as there is already a well defined user group structure, as there is with Linux user groups. As such Meetup was sometimes used to just direct people to the real user group. There are 39,778 organisers today (and 194,038 groups), I wonder how many organsiers and groups are going to take up their offer, and perhaps more to the point, I wonder whether Meetup will be around in 12 months time, when they discover that perhaps more organisers than they expect can't justify forking out $228 per year, just to be allowed to have a user group? It all seems a bit short-sighted to me.

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  • Same here. I was vaguely organising the London Perl Meetup group (actually using it as a devious front for london.pm). As soon as I got that email from Meetup I stood down as organiser. I assume the group will just die.

    I'm actually a member of a number of London-based Meetup groups and over the last 24 hours I've had a constant stream of emails from organisers explaining why they are standing down. Each one is followed by an automatic email from Meetup asking for a volunteer to take over. I can't see anyon