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Tuesday May 09, 2006
06:34 AM


[ #29567 ]

Yesterday evening I was doing some DHTML. Nothing fancy just basic stuff. I normally use Firefox+WebDeveloper to develop with, then Konqueror and Opera for testing. IE is so crap I don't even bother with it, until I've got it all working in the better browsers first. Yesterday was a very frustrating, because I failed to read the error message that was staring me in the face! As soon as I bothered to read the error message it was obvious what I had done wrong, and trivial to fix.

Now it's all working, I'll see what horrible things IE does with it... While IE is the dominant browser with 60-80% market share in the target demographic, it's no use to develop with, and more importantly it doesn't run directly on Linux which is my desktop and server OS.

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  • You were talking about having to resort to Windows to test your sites in IE - well, now there's no need. The tool at [] allows you to run IE6, 5.5 and 5.0 using Wine. It seems to work well on FC5, anyway.
    • I hadn't seen this particular project, but I knew you can in theory run IE on wine. In my case I run NT inside a QEMU session, which is good enough for testing, but it's a pain for development.

      -- "It's not magic, it's work..."
  • Have you seen the firebug [] extension? It's like the JavaScript console and DOM inspector all rolled into one. I can't live without it these days.

    Also, when you do get around to debugging under IE, don't forget to install the Microsoft Script Debugger []. It's slightly better than the default dialog box which just says "an error occurred somewhere but I'm not going to tell you where".


    • Cool, I'll have to give that a try. I'm already running:

      • Adblock
      • NoScript
      • Web Developer
      • View Source Chart
      • View formatted source
      • Tabbrowser extension
      -- "It's not magic, it's work..."
      • When you check it out, go through a few posts on [] . There's a number of useful tips on how to get the most out of it.


        • Okay will do, I'm impressed already!

          This sure is one very useful tool. Firefox is a fine foundation for building a really useful cross-platform web development tool on.

          -- "It's not magic, it's work..."