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ajt (2546)

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Thursday June 24, 2004
07:04 AM

Firefox Web Developer ++

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Recently I upgraded my browsers at work. I've now got Firefox 0.9, Mozilla 1.7, Opera 7.51 and some IE thing. I only use IE to test things, it's pants to develop on, and I only use it because it's "company standard".

My favourite toy has to be the Web Developer Extension for Mozilla/Firefox. Very cool, it allows you to do lots of things that are normally a pain during development: turn things on and off on the fly, clear authentications, view xhtml block elements, and edit the style sheet on the fly. Opera isn't quite as powerful, but even that has it's debugging and developing tools.

At the moment I'm working on a SAP application server that uses TT2. I've got the Badger book, and I'm slogging my way through TT. I know our HTML guy coudn't grok TT, he hated it and to be honest I can see why. While I like some aspects of TT, and it does seem to work, I don't belive many of the claims made by the fan base. Templates aside, if it all goes well, I've offered brian d foy and article on the experience.

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  • to be honest I can see why.

    So why?
    • Because though it separates some business logic from the presentation end, you still end up with a lot of logic going on in the template. The language is complex enough to confuse our HTML monkey - it certainly confused his Dreamweaver tool. He is comfortable with ASP, but he found the logic is TT2 strange. I'm not saying it's not impossible to use, but it's not a doddle for a non-Perl using HTML head to use.

      Personally I find it very Perl like, and I know what's going on, but if I hadn't used Perl before,

      -- "It's not magic, it's work..."