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TorgoX (1933)

TorgoX
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Saturday February 09, 2002
07:48 AM

Qahopmosa!

[ #2737 ]
Dear Log,

«

We see that the form of the noun is reduced when it is used with a prefixed adjective: moosa = a cat becomes -mosa = a ... cat, and kiihu = house becomes -ki = a ... house. Some nouns even change further: pooko = a dog turns into -voko = a ... dog, as in qötsa-voko = a white dog. Adjectives can be added one on top of the other: wukó-qötsa-voko = a big white dog; and they can be negated using qa- = not: qahopmosa = naughty cat, which is subdivided thus: qa-hop-mosa = not-well-behaved-cat (from hopi/hop- = well-behaved).

The adjective 'little, small' is rendered by an ending, -hoya, comparable to the German ending -chen as in German Blümchen = little flower from German Blume = flower. In Hopi we have for example: qötsámomoshoyam = little white cats, which is structured thus: *qötsá-moo-mo-sa-hoya-m = white-cat-(reduplication)-little-(plural). (Note that the -sh- is not the English 'sh' but rather an s followed by an h.)

»

-- Hopi Language Summary

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  • Finnish numbers are evil as they are compound and every word inside the whole compound gets inflected, e.g. the number '28' in nominative, genitive and partative cases

    • kaksikymmentäkahdeksan
    • kahdenkymmenenkahdeksan
    • kahtakymmentäkahdeksaa

    It's wacky! :)

    • Wouldn't much of the apparent problem go away if they wrote it like "kahden-kymmenen-kahdeksan" or something?

      You want evil, look at numbers in Russian (and to a certain extent the other Slavic languages), which I mention in my TPJ13 Maketext Article [cpan.org] (soon to appear in the Best of TPJ books from O'Reilly). They project case onto the nouns they quantify, in horrible ways that depend on the number. I don't remember the details (and I never could figure out all the rules) but it's like: 1-3 (and compounds t