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"Il est beau comme la retractilité des serres des oiseaux rapaces [...] et surtout, comme la rencontre fortuite sur une table de dissection d'une machine à coudre et d'un parapluie !" -- Lautréamont
Hasn't changed in a thousand years
Hither:
«I remember when Bush in the famous debate in Iowa said that Jesus Christ was his favorite political philosopher. I always thought the problem was not with that answer, which is a legitimate answer. But when he was asked to explain this, he basically said, "If you haven't had this experience, you don't know what it is."
I was offended by that, because I thought, in a sense, in a tolerant democracy, a politician has an obligation to explain things to people who don't necessarily accept their religious terms.
I had an assistant at the time who was a Democrat, no friend of Bush's, but an evangelical Christian. She was upset with me, because she said, "That's how we talk. You should understand that." I think it's those moments, when Bush speaks like that, that evangelicals know in their hearts that he's one of them.»
-- E.J. Dionne, interviewed in Frontline's episode on Bush's religiousness
And yon:
«I think, fundamentally, many of these Evangelical and social Christians like George Bush. They like what he's done on partial-birth abortion, they like what he's done in terms of appointees, they like what he's done in the war.
I was down in Georgia the other day talking to some pastors; and when I talk to them about the war in Iraq, they understand fundamentally, in ways that George Bush does not talk about, that this is part of a millennial crusade -- Bush got in trouble using the word "crusade" -- You talk to to some pastors in suburban Atlanta, they understand that this war is against the Muslems, against the Infidel, in a way that in fundamental ways hasn't changed in a thousand years.
They see that this is the president who's engaged in something bigger than just this moment. »
-- a Fresh Air interview with Wayne Slater, who appears in Frontline's episode on Bush's religiousness
I'm achingly tired of being trapped in other people's country-fried mythologies. It's like being confined to a fur con, except they're running the country. It's like Ren-faire Taliban.
I pour myself a cup of strong coffee. :-)
-- Jarkko Hietaniemi
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As to Dionne
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Even if I consider the "You totally wouldn't understand" subject to the niceties of moral relativism (everyone has their own mythologies... [villagevoice.com]), it's still too obscurantist (by far) to be coming out of the mouth of anyone even pretending to be a public leader.
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Oh, please. If he had stood up there and explained why he believes what he does, you'd have bitched about that too.
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Exactly! Why tell the truth (much less the Truth) when someone will always complain?
(Hint: [uidaho.edu] it's how democracies are supposed to work. But tell no-one, it's a secret!)
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