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• Don't blame the Parliament (Score:2)

  by ajt (2546)

  The problem isn't the EU, it's the big governments really. The big governments like to complain about the EU, but in reality they always get their way. It's a convenient scape-goat to blame the EU, when it's their own ministers that rammed the legislation though against the wishes of the people, the EU and various national parliaments and common sense.

  Yes the EU does need cleaning up, and giving it clarity and transfering power from the unelected commission to the parliament would be a good start.

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• Playing devil's advocate ... (Score:2)

  by drhyde (1683)

  You are being inconsistent - a bit like UKIP :-) At one point you say:

  now it will be passed by ministers for either the environment or fisheries.

  But at another you say:

  a secret and unaccountable cabal of unelected diplomats make the agreements between themselves.

  The vast majority of ministers in EU countries are elected members of their national parliaments. Those that aren't are still accountable to their national governments and through them to the electorate. If anything, the *un*elected minis
  • Re:Playing devil's advocate ... (Score:2)

    by TeeJay (2309)

    Ah..

    The thing is that any discussion between ministers is still secret and therefore unaccountable.

    They also make the agreement between themselves according to secret government agenda.. I don't remember anything in the Labour Manifesto claiming to help the nation by allowing software patents.

    Also they don't answer to the government or parliament. MP's have raised issues and they have been ignored as Lord Sainsbury and his Cronies push through bad legislation for their chums at Microsoft.

    I wish the

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    • Re:Playing devil's advocate ... (Score:2)

      by drhyde (1683)

      There's plenty of stuff governments do which was never in their manifestoes. It's called "reacting to events". People would whine just as much if they didn't react to events as you are about them reacting to events.

      The *results* of ministerial discussions are accountable to and reversible by parliament. Parliament is sovereign above *all* other bodies, and can ignore EU directives if it sees fit. Parliament can also impeach ministers who refuse to do as they are told.