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Stuff with the Perl Foundation. A couple of patches in the Perl core. A few CPAN modules. That about sums it up.

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Sunday June 08, 2003
12:33 PM

Bandwagon or Slow Awakening?

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It's rather curious, but as of this writing, much of the news reports from Google regarding WMD evidence falls either in one of two camps: either the Bush administration defending their evidence and everyone else questioning it. The sole exception seemed to be a Fox News article which suggested that the evidence was forthcoming. Had that article not been from a purveyor of blatantly jingoistic reporting, it may have carried more weight.

  • Iraq weapons claims still unproven
  • Was the Intelligence Cooked?
  • Doubts cast on 'mobile germ labs' found in Iraq
  • CIA to Give Congress Documents on Iraq Intelligence
  • Bush promises to reveal Saddam's deadly arsenal
  • Bush administration says Iraq had weapons of mass destruction
  • We Used To Impeach Liars
  • Getting a better view of the world
  • Prewar claims not confirmed in Iraq
  • Retired government analyst alleges distortion
  • Bush waged war then tries to justify it
  • US admiral: Couldn't "reliably pin down" Iraqi WMD last Sept.
  • Powell, Rice defend US intelligence on Iraq
  • Some Analysts of Iraq Trailers Reject Germ Use
  • Bush promises to `reveal the truth' on Iraq's arms
  • Analysts say trailers are not 'smoking gun'
  • Some analysts dispute claim that trailers were germ labs
  • Bush promises to reveal truth about weapons

Given that this has been a slow buildup to this point, I can't help but wonder if this is really "news", or if the news sources are simply jumping on the latest media bandwagon.

One interesting quote from Hans Blix:

"They did not have patience for that (prolonged U.N. inspections)," Blix said in a telephone interview broadcast Friday on Colombian radio.

"However, of course what I notice now is that when the American inspectors do not find anything, then it is suggested we should have patience."

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  • I know some people who supported the war. They have become very quiet on that subject now.
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    neophyte Niederrhein.pm [pm.org]
    • I supported it, and I am not quiet about it, but I maintained for months leading up to the war that whether or not Hussein had weapons was not the point. And Blix's quote shows he still doesn't get that. The impatience the American government had was not for finding weapons or not, it was for Iraqi cooperation, which was never the full (let alone immediate) cooperation required by UN resolutions.
      I don't know if there are weapons in Iraq, or were, and I only care for reasons OTHER than whether war was actu
      • For the record, I absolutely do not buy your argument, but at least it's a darned sight more intellectually honest than most pro-war arguments that I hear.

        • Heh. Well, I don't see what's to buy. Resolution 1441 listed as a material breach only one thing: not cooperating (and we know, indisputably, that Iraq did not fully cooperate, as it flatly refused to allow inspectors to interview their people under UN terms, as required by 1441).

          Resolution 687 (from 1991, the cease-fire agreement) said that it was Iraq's responsibility to prove that it had no weapons. It can only do that by fully cooperating, because any lack of cooperating means they could be hiding s