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Matts (1087)

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I work for MessageLabs [] in Toronto, ON, Canada. I write spam filters, MTA software, high performance network software, string matching algorithms, and other cool stuff mostly in Perl and C.

Journal of Matts (1087)

Thursday July 11, 2002
04:20 AM

Leaving use.perl

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No, I'm not leaving use.perl, but it seems there are quite a few people who have done. The only thing I want to say about this is don't expect me to read your journal if you leave.

Now the flip side of this is what is doing these journals all about? Mostly it's a purging - people like to pour their hearts out. Or talk about some geeky development thing they're doing. It's not necessarily about people reading what you've written. In fact on issue for me is a record of things I've accomplished over the year.

But the big part of it for me (and why I come back here every day) is the feedback/replies. If you leave, you lose that. At least from me. I don't expect I'm important enough to anyone that this may bother you, but I may not be the only person who won't read your ramblings any more.

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  • Why people feel the need to move to a different blog and stop posting to journals I don't know. I barely have time to post a journal on here occasionally, if I was serious about blogging then I'd automate the process so that each journal submission would go to each of my blogs.

    On the same note, if I have to surf half a dozen blogs to read your journal I won't bother.

    @JAPH = qw(Hacker Perl Another Just);
    print reverse @JAPH;
  • Definitely not alone. I like the community here; and the 'one stop shop' nature of it. Life's too short to go checking 10 different sites every day for other journals.
  • I read most of the journals on use.perl, checking at least two or three times a week. When people have left, I've looked at their new blog sites once or twice and then forgotten about them.

    I'm sure that the loss of me as a reader doesn't matter to any of the journal authors. But I'm sad to be losing interesting writers.

  • I don't read other blogs, except, sometimes, Axis of AEvil [] and Ask Bjoern Hansen []. No matter how much those blogs are relevant, I can see that there aren't much comments on them (well, in fact Elaine's blog doesn't allow comments). I think the overall fanciness of these prevents readers to leave comments ; whereas a user journal on use.perl, as it presents itself as part of a community, is probably more appealing to feedback.
  • Obviously I can't speak for everyone who has non-use.perl blogs, but I can explain why I've set mine up.

    I'm not leaving use.perl. I'll still be posting a lot of stuff here (or, at least, that's the plan). It's just there is stuff that I'd like people who aren't part of the Perl community to see as well and asking them to come here seems a bit strange to me. Like a party where two different groups of people don't mix.

    I'll see how it goes for a while. Maybe I will get a lot less comments. Maybe I'll find th

    • On my long-term todo list is to hook up Blosxom [] with the aggregator Blagg, to allow me to have a single place to post to my use.perl. journal and my O'Reilly Network log.

      The ORN blog is supposed to be for work-related things, like conferences and Perl, but because use.perl has such a better interface for posting, I never use ORN. And all my friends are here.

      What I want to be able to do is mark a post as for ORN, use.perl, or both. At that point my laziness will have been maximized. Of course, it'd ta

    • As someone who posts fairly rarely to his general blog and even more rarely on, I'm with Dave here. I made a decision last July or so to only post Perl stuff here, and there's not that much I've done since that I think is of interest.

      Other people evidently feel that the word 'journal' is more important than the word 'perl'. Fair enough.

      Perhaps what's missing in the wider world of blogs like aevil's, davorg's, ask's, boojum's and my own is the 'Friends' interface and the interconnectedness of
  • I'm with you. I only read something if it's on one of my regularly visited sites (this one's in the top two) or if I see an interesting link to it. I'm sorry to see some people go, but I don't intend to add individual independent blogs to my list of regularly visited sites. So the only way to get me to visit another blog will be to write something interesting and have someone think it interesting enough to post a link here or somewhere else in my immediate vision.

    Plus, Slash works the way I think. Aft

    J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
  • davorg writes:

    It's just there is stuff that I'd like people who aren't part of the Perl community to see as well..."

    Precisely. As strange as it may sound there are those of us that have friends & perhaps family who are not geeks and have nothing to do with Perl whatsoever. Why would those people come to a programming community website?

    If you only want your ramblings read by fellow Perlers then is the perfect place for that - and more power to ya. If you want "outsiders" to read the
    • Sorry, I do agree with that, I guess I should have considered that. To that end if you do have friends outside of the perl community who would like to read your musings (I don't) then fair enough.
    • This seems a flimsy argument to me..
      If these people are you friends/family whatever
      presumably they are going out of their way to
      read a blog as it is. What difference does it
      make where it is? To them a link is a link.
      Were that I say, pancakes?
      • Well yes but some outer blogs could be part of a more encompassing "page" with photos or other misc pages - not just the blog itself. Personally I'd like to stay on the same site with the same "look & feel" instead of remembering "Ok I go to for his blog, for his photos and for his other stuff. Yes technically they're just links but all 3 sites could look different and act differently. That along with the fact that you are more likely (but not always obviousl
  • To be perfectly honest, there's no one person who writes journals here on use.perl that is _so_ compelling that I'd actually make a point of reading their own site.

    However, the fact that there are _lots_ of people who write journals, all in one convenient location, gets me to read quite a number of journal entries. Some I read because I know them in other contexts, like Matts here, who I worked with for a while.

    Others I've met in conferences or seen their talks or they just write well enough to make it w