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I work for MessageLabs [messagelabs.com] in Toronto, ON, Canada. I write spam filters, MTA software, high performance network software, string matching algorithms, and other cool stuff mostly in Perl and C.

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Friday January 04, 2008
12:49 PM

Rails has peaked

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I found this blog post rather interesting. Though take it with a grain of salt obviously.


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  • Other frameworks have grown from what Rails has done. If Ruby had been more entrenched in the web server area it might have lasted longer.

  • Allow me to suggest that Seaside - the Smalltalk continuation-based web framework [seaside.st] will be the next "Rails". Already faster and in some ways, more powerful, and cross-platform (commercial smalltalks and Squeak all providing support).

    I'm exploring Seaside (and Smalltalk in general) in my new blog: Methods and Messages: Randal Schwartz on Smalltalk [vox.com]. Check it out!

    --
    • Randal L. Schwartz
    • Stonehenge
    • Wow. I remember hacking a bit on seaside about 8 or 9 years ago...
    • Yeah. Sure. Massive Smalltalk adoption in the worldwide IT industry is right around the corner. Yep. Any moment now.

      If there's a "next Rails", it's Django, not Seaside.

  • I see this as another case of using noisy (and to some extent, downright bogus) stats. As usual, if you want to know the truth, follow the money.

    Alas, my graphic [presicient.com] only tracks Ruby, not Rails, but I think they'd correlate pretty closely (esp. since the Rails crowd has hijacked the language). My read of the jobs data indicates Ruby has stalled...but so have Python and Perl. The real Next Big Thing (sadly) appears to be PHP.

    I guess there's no accounting for tastes. At least Perl stalled at a 4x to 8x great

    • "The real Next Big Thing (sadly) appears to be PHP."

      You're probably right. I get the feeling that the PHP community has probably learned a lot from Rails and Django frameworks in general. Hey, if they can do it better, faster and cheaper, then hats off to 'em.

  • One guy goes nuclear and suddenly Rails is dying, eh?

    I think not.

    • No, I don't think anyone is saying "dying". It isn't the shiny new thing any more though. Not by a long shot.
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