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Matts (1087)

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I work for MessageLabs [] in Toronto, ON, Canada. I write spam filters, MTA software, high performance network software, string matching algorithms, and other cool stuff mostly in Perl and C.

Journal of Matts (1087)

Wednesday January 21, 2004
06:12 AM

PIR strictness

[ #16932 ]

It appears that (my domain) has fallen off the PIR. This sort of shit keeps happening to me - I'm starting to feel victimised.

For those that don't know, the PIR runs the .org top level domain. has gone on "HOLD" because of a DNS screwup. Unfortunately there's no quick way to resolve this - it's just a wait for them to re-enable me thing.

I guess the PIR's actions are a good thing - they help ensure that people are running things properly. I just wish there was a bit more notice given - I didn't find out until I couldn't resolve any more. My guess is they do this to stop squatters and spammers.

Ah well, just one more case of learning how little I really know about DNS :-)

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  • Did they tell you what kind of DNS problem they put it on hold for? This is the first time I've heard of a domain being put on hold for some kind of DNS issue, and I'm very curious.
    • The PIR record says "CLIENT HOLD" and I didn't receive any email or any other prior notice about it. If you can find out what "CLIENT HOLD" means I'd be very happy - as I can't find out from their FAQs or anywhere.

      I added a bogus DNS server to the whois records to see if that wouldn't trigger a re-check of it. Still on "hold" though.

      Anyone want to offer me outsourced DNS?
      • CLIENT HOLD is equivalent to the NSI REGISTRAR-HOLD, which usually would indicate that the domain expired. It seems no coincidence that the registry expiration date on the domain is 19-Jan-2005 - the registry expiration date is generally extended by a year even when the domain isn't renewed, to account for redemption periods, grace periods, and all that stuff. I'd check with your registrar about the expiration status of the domain.
        • You're right. It had expired. Yet I received no notifications that it was about to (I've checked and double checked). How frustrating! (yet I suppose it's good that I didn't lose it).

          Thanks for your help.