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Thursday August 19, 2010
10:20 PM

Speaking at Microsoft TechEd - Any issues you want raised?

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Next week I will at Microsoft's TechEd Australia event, courtesy of Microsoft Australia and Microsoft Open Source Labs.

More specifically, I'll be attending the Open Source mini-conf and discussion day on Tuesday, and presenting in the Community Presentations to Microsoft session on the current state of Perl and Windows on Wednesday.

Likely topics will include a review of the first year of the CPAN Testing Lab and a second-generation based on their Cloud Services, free code signing certificates for open source developers, and what issues are slowing us down or blocking progress.

So consider this your opportunity to raise any outstanding issues you have with Microsoft and Perl. What problems are you still seeing, what would like fixed or changed, and what is on your want-to-have list?

I'll try to address as many of your issues as possible in the time I have available with them (which is actually pretty substantial).

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  • While these are not Windows specific issues but it would be nice to see more web based APIs of Microsoft implemented in Perl and available on CPAN. For example I recently looked at the maps [microsoft.com] and the Bing Maps API [microsoft.com] but as far as I can tell there is no Perl version for these.

    Do they have an API to get a list of Points of Interest around a set of coordinates?

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  • I heard that Azure officially supports PHP,Ruby,Python(?).. but Perl.
    Why ?
  • If they saw a demo of some of Perl 6's features (fibonacci in a single line, for example) they might get excited about the idea of helping with Perl 6 on .NET (see "backend diversity" at http://perlgeek.de/blog-en/perl-6/notes-from-yapc-hackathon.html [perlgeek.de]).
    • It's been my experience that Microsoft doesn't necessarily work that way, except in a limited fashion.

      What they are both interested and capable the most in is in the area of "Interop" as they call it. Contained, concrete steps they can take to remove roadblock from the path of otherwise active technologies, and to make them work better on Windows.

      Some of these are financial, like the CPAN Testing Lab and their (rumored) free code signing certs. Some are toolchain related like CoApp.

      The issues where they are

  • I would LOVE it if there would be better IIS support for Perl, either by supporting FastCGI and bundling StrawberryPerl in the Microsoft Web platform, or by supporting Plack in IIS. Oh man that would rock!
  • Is the "CPAN Testing Lab" that virtual machine/VNC thing you mentioned some time ago for authors to use to test their code using? I tried using it, but found it to be impossible, because for something to be a viable debugging environment you need more than just perl. You need a usable editor (which Notepad ain't); you need tools like grep etc; you need to be able to easily find stuff. Now, maybe all of those things do exist and I was just looking in the wrong places, but if MS are going to take interoper