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renodino (6856)

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Perl Contrarian & SQL fanboy.

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Thursday September 13, 2007
06:40 PM

Tired of "Perl is dead" FUD ?

[ #34444 ]

Yeah, me too. But I'm a capitalist, so I like to see what people are writing checks for. As I'm fed up with the various unsubstantiated claims, I've whipped up a little graphic that will hopefully cheer you up. I'll try to keep it updated regularly.

If nothing else, it'll give us all something to watch as we're overtaken by our Ruby and Python overlords.


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  • I would tend to think that's right, but it's counter to what a lot of other people report. Is it just the way different people count?

    It would be really cool to see a Venn diagram sorta thing to see how they all overlap, but I guess that would be too many
    • I'd say the reason Perl is to tall is because so many jobs have "this, that, the other.... and Perl".

      That's part of the reason jobs.perl.org became so popular, because on jobs.perl.org you know the jobs are PRIMARILY about Perl, not just incidentally invol
      • I think that's probably true, and maybe it's just been buried in all the jobs that listed Java in the same way.

        That's the tricky thing about this sort of analysis: what are you going to actualyl be doing when you get the job? There might be a Perl keyword
        • When I was recently looking for a new job, about one in three positions I considered wanted Perl programmers because they had a massive legacy system written in Perl that they wanted to port to Java. Before I put any faith in this graph, I'd want to know

    • Any chance of sharing the code?
      I've posted it to perlmonks [perlmonks.com].

      Its pretty simplistic, so I don't think its TPR-worthy.

      Many will question the "sampling" technique, but I'm assuming the spurious datapoints are as likely in PHP/Python/Ruby samples as Per

    • brian, to answer a part of your requirement, we have a tool Market Statistics that you can compare skills based on location and industry type and it will give the monthly job demand for 2007 and it also compares median salary. http://www.odinjobs.com/Staff [odinjobs.com]
  • And just for fun, here's the # results per city for the top twenty cities:

      757 New York, NY
      211 San Francisco, CA
      191 Chicago, IL
      156 San Jose, CA
      151 Jersey City, NJ
      120 San Diego, CA
      93 Seattle, WA
  • I live in a fairly large metropolitan area in the Midwest (US). Here, as far as advertised jobs, PHP is king, as well as the usual Java/.NET. Most jobs I see listing Perl have it in a generic list of requirements or for shops that need Perl programmers to
  • Cobol returned 1287 hits, more than some of the other languages you showed there. Does that mean Cobol is "alive"? I wouldn't say so. Not in any "community enthusiasm" or "upcoming features" sort of way.

    And, as others have pointed out, Perl is usually an

    • I think it's safe to say (in that anecdotal sort of way that chromatic hates) that the enthusiasm for it is in decline.

      That depends on your definition of "safe". If you mean "here is a stack of statistics and here is the research methods and raw data"

    • Does that mean Cobol is "alive"? I wouldn't say so

      Actually, I wouldn't call in Father Murphy to give COBOL [google.com] its last rites just yet. And if COBOL's survivability concerns you a great deal, you may want to withdraw all your funds from the bank, as much

      • Oh, I'm well aware that COBOL will probably be around long after I'm retired. But then, I'm talking about community vitality. There's really nothing to look forward to with COBOL beyond a paycheck. They still teach COBOL in the US Military, btw.

        Regarding

        • om Copeland recently blogged that RubyForge had over 20,000 registered users. By comparison I count only 6148 on CPAN...

          To paraphrase Sam Tregar, that's kind of an Apples to Oranges [perl.org] comparison (even with your followup correction).

          • Hah, fair enough. I'm not sure how you count the total number of Perl devs who contribute to Perl libraries but aren't listed. It's probably impossible without manually checking README and/or CHANGES files.

            I've been doing some more number crunching for b

            • Does "collaborative development environment" include IRC, mailing lists, and Usenet or is it solely the purview of web fora?

              I'm curious to see your research and conclusions, but the CPAN predates SourceForge. In my mind, that's an important distinction

  • I think we need some more data....

    $: for i in perl python java ruby php cobol ; do echo -n "$i -" ; apt-cache search $i | grep $i | wc -l ; done
    perl -1560
    python -720
    java -426
    ruby -375
    php -245
    cobol -1

    I think this says that Perl is ext
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